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I don't know how anyone can say WWE is better than TNA now.

Postby braves87 » Sat May 26, 2012 3:07 pm

RAW sucks and is going to three hours. Smackdown is a snoozer. NXT is meh. Impact Wrestling is currently blowing all of WWE's shows out of the water. TNA had a huge problem with pacing their show years ago and since Hogan and Bischoff have come in, the pace of the program has slowed down and is a lot better. The matches are great. The backstage segments have some realism to them. The champions have LONG title reigns. They don't disrespect the World title like WWE does. Roode has had many, many great matches as champion. Aries is awesome. The tag division is actually a tag division. The midcard/upper card is loaded. WWE may put on a great PPV every now and then, but 8 shows leading up to it sucking shouldn't happen.
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Postby syxxpakk » Sat May 26, 2012 3:45 pm

The pace has slowed down since Pritchard came in, not Hogan/Bischoff.
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Postby JustSkiff » Sat May 26, 2012 6:20 pm

Well because people have different point of views and enjoy different things. Maybe they shouldn't say WWE is "better" but instead say they enjoy it more, but that would be really ticky tacky. Either way people like what they like.
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Postby Mdodmod » Sat May 26, 2012 7:32 pm

I give TNA a shot once or twice a year and I just generally do not like it. I was head over heels on the Extreme Rules 2012 pay per view however. I don't watch Raw or Impact other then specific recommended segments.
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Postby Jeremy » Sat May 26, 2012 8:45 pm

I think a big problem I have is with TNA is they never build up to anything for the most part. It's simply "We have a PPV coming up. Time to throw the usual guys in the mix". It seems like they run the same matches time and time again and generally the big stuff happens on Impact. Watching one of their PPVs feels like you're watching only half of a movie and being told you can watch the other half in a few days.

My second problem is it's still full of WWE and WCW rejects and Hogan over everything. Open Fight Night is a perfect example. That could have easily been used to elevate new talent to an upper-midcard level. Instead it's Hardy, Angle, etc in the match. And who is Roode's next challenger? Sting, a guy who was past his prime years and years ago doing a silly Joker gimmick. On top of that we have Bischoff's son getting a push, Hogan opening and closing the shows with promos, and matches that feel rushed.

They keep claiming they're wrestling's true alternative, and all I see is a fed trying to be exactly like WWE rather than their own entity.
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Postby Mr. Small Package » Sat May 26, 2012 9:54 pm

I'm in the same boat of people that try to give TNA a shot every so often, but come away from it very disappointed. I still recall the better days, if you can say that, of TNA. When they first got on FOX Sports and Petey Williams hitting the Canadian Destroyer for the first time. When the X Division was an actual division and the matches were must see.

TNA now is just extremely WCW-esque. They have the right tools, but the wrong people in charge and overseeing the booking process. It's funny someone mentioned Aries when they previously had him and did nothing with him. They did nothing with The Young Bucks as well. Aries is doing well at the moment, but I wonder how long that will last. Especially after he drops the X Division title.

I enjoy what I can from WWE and that's better than trying to sit through a broadcast of Impact or any of TNA's PPVs.
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Postby Rooskie » Mon May 28, 2012 4:21 am

There was a time in 2005-2006 when TNA was better than ROH. I DVR Impact from time to time, and other Aries getting a chance to shine, there's not much that keeps me from fast forwarding the segments after a minute. WWE is still watchable to me. I agree WWE is very beatable right now -- even the Danielson-Punk storyline is fairly flat -- but TNA hasn't found "it" yet.
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Postby fm20000 » Mon May 28, 2012 5:24 am

TNA is definitely putting on interesting stuff right now but the payoff is NEVER worth it with this company. I watched the Roode/Storm feud and Lockdown which had great buildup but then the whole show fell flat and the main event was so predictable and just eh. I just feel like every time TNA takes a step forward they take 5 backwards. The whole angle they were doing on Impact this past Thursday was interesting but I just have no faith that they can keep it going or that it will produce anything worthwhile in the end.

I'm giving TNA another shot but I have no doubt I will be disappointed.
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Postby WrestlingMatters » Mon May 28, 2012 11:09 pm

In terms of great matches, WWE is kicking TNA's (and ROH's) ass this year.
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Postby Montana » Tue May 29, 2012 10:45 pm

It's all a matter of opinion, but I'd say the WWE is way ahead of TNA/ROH this year. With the Rock and Jericho coming back earlier in the year, CM Punk and Daniel Bryan becoming legit stars and having great matches, Brock returning this year....Do you really think Roode and Aries are competing with all this? I like TNA, but it's a second tier wrestling program. They haven't been able to hit a home run, when given the chance. They are inconsistent month by month.

I also feel like the main event scene with Sting, Hardy, Angle, AJ, Joe, is quite stale. I know they added Roode/Storm to the mix to add for depth, but it still feels like the same group over past 5 years or so. I give TNA trying, and i don't hate their product. I just feel their not hitting on all cylinders, and too focused on getting exposure, rather than having a consistent good wrestling program, that properly hypes and promotes PPV's, and leads to BFG.
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Postby Jeremy » Tue May 29, 2012 11:10 pm

It's just ironic ROH and TNA pride themselves on their wrestling, yet WWE has given us more amazing 20 minute matches since January alone.

You know when RAW goes three hours they're eventually going to be confused on what to book so they'll go the WCW Nitro route and have longer matches.
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Postby WrestlingMatters » Tue May 29, 2012 11:40 pm

Jeremy wrote:It's just ironic ROH and TNA pride themselves on their wrestling, yet WWE has given us more amazing 20 minute matches since January alone.

That's down to WWE giving us some surprisingly good match-ups that we didn't think they would ever book.

Jeremy wrote:You know when RAW goes three hours they're eventually going to be confused on what to book so they'll go the WCW Nitro route and have longer matches.

I really hope so, by default though there will probably be more crap but I just skip through most of the show anyway.
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Postby icyhot » Wed May 30, 2012 12:57 am

Not a fan of either.
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Postby syxxpakk » Wed May 30, 2012 1:16 am

WWE has had a lot of good matches this year, but I wouldn't put them past ROH on the good match race.
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Postby ROHWorld_Des » Wed May 30, 2012 4:26 pm

As some of you have said, it's all a matter of opinion. I myself look forward more to Impact these days than I do to Raw. Crazy, yes?
Impact's storylines just seem so much more well-paced than before. It doesn't feel like they're throwing stuff at the wall and keeping what sticks. Now I can actually tell you what happened when an episode is over.
It's remarkable how Aries is slowly but surely breaking through the X-Division's glass ceiling. The X-Division has its trend: Put the title on a random guy, have him win for a while with no real feud in place, then have him drop it and disappear from television all together... Repeat... Aries, I think, will prove to be the exception to this trend. His ability both as an in-ring performer and as a character have set him apart from the prototypical X-division geek.
Granted, I'm in the camp that favors Impact greatly cutting back on its PPV's. Officials there have gone on record saying that they're not a PPV-oriented company. WWE greatly outperforms TNA in terms of PPV for the most part, with the glaring exception of Sacrifice being leaps and bounds better than Over the Limit with the exception of the Punk Bryan match. IN terms of week-to-week television though, it's TNA all the way. I'm in that position right now where I'd probably stop watching WWE all together and just keep up with it through the Observer and Twitter if I didn't write about it myself.
So, in summation: It is what it is.
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Postby cviens » Wed May 30, 2012 10:12 pm

Because WWE has been entertaining and putting on great matches. TNA is the same ol' shit basically. All they're doing right is Aries.
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Postby RoaringElbow » Thu May 31, 2012 2:33 am

ya know one of the things that made the WWF/WCW race so much better is that both companies were worried theyd lose talent to the other. When one guy would switch, most of the time it raised their stock. For the company that got the new talent, they had a new, ready-made, star who could be plugged into upper-mid card and main event feuds. And the company that lost the guy, now had a place to make a new star. Someone to step up and create fresh new matchups.
But the Rosters now, look so unchanged for so long. WWE doesnt see TNA as a threat, so they dont steal many guys away. When they do they still make them goto developmental. Their own guys? They have almost a monopoly on their contracts. and TNA creates buzz when they get Angle, Hardy, Christian, RVD, etc, but they hot shot their feuds so much it flares out before it has time to create new fans. How much would it help both companies if John Cena jumped ship? or Orton? or Jericho? How bout if AJ appeared on Raw? Would they even present him like we are supposed to know who he was? The problem is, the E built some of these guys up so quick, theyre just now reaching the point where they should be the main eventers. Cena & Orton have been winning titles for more years than the Rock was actually wrestling. Now the E cant make them Mid-carders again, theyve been winning world titles for 7-8 years already. And they wont let their stars go, so they sit. Stale at the Top. Not going anywhere. Doing the same thing and burying TV ratings and buyrates, Even the new stars...CM Punk? have you seen him main event a raw recently? last time he main evented a PPV? December. They have 2 GD world titles. So they have to build more guys up quicker. So things get stale faster. I love daniel bryan, but let that dude build for longer. If this was 15 years ago, his feuds w/ Show & Sheamus are great IC Title feuds, not a lesser world title. Then it means more when he does win a world title in a few years.
somethings gotta change. Cause those companies are killing themselves
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